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The argument from non-editing routes to robust removal

The argument

If relearning-resistant removal can be achieved without selectively editing forget-specific representations, such editing is not required. Distilling an unlearned model into a randomly initialized student improves resistance to relearning, and models pretrained without biothreat text resist adversarial fine-tuning within tested attack limits. Both obtain robustness by building a model that never forms the target representations, rather than by editing them in place.

Does it work?

Does it follow?
If the premises are true, the conclusion is much more likely, though not guaranteed.constitution →
Do the premises hold?
1 supported1 not separately assessed

Granting its premises, a robust removal method that does not rely on selective in-place editing is a counterexample to necessity. The step still has a gap: whether pretraining filtering, and distillation pipelines that start from an unlearned model, count as "unlearning" is partly a matter of definition. The argument depends on linked claim and linked claim, and on how robust each turns out to be under strong attacks.

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