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{"ok":true,"url":"https://arxiv.org/html/2601.20299","text":"el capability, we now ensure that all participants in any given experiment are instances of the same model, with differences only in the prompt templates (honest vs deceptive). Specifically, we use Llama-3.1-8B, Gemma2-2B, and Gemma2-27B models as participants in 3 different series of experiments, to ensure coverage of a wide range of model sizes.\nResistance Metric\nWe use the cross-entropy loss of logistic regression between peer prediction/LLM-as-a-Judge scores and binary honesty labels to measure how scores gained by a participant positively predict its honesty. This reflects the evaluation scheme’s degree of punishment for deception, where a lower cross-entropy indicates stronger resistance to deception.\nScaling Analysis\nWe investigate the scaling property of resistance to deception, by varying the participant model size, the expert model size, and the number of participants/experts, and examining how resistance to deception changes. Among these, the most essential parameter is the model capability gap : ratio of the participant model size to the expert model size .\nResult: Inverse Scaling with Model Capability Gap\nSurprisingly, we observe an inverse scaling property: the results indicate that resistance to deception increases with the model capability gap.\nFigure 2 shows the scaling properties of resistance to deception (y-axis) with respect to the model capability gap (x-axis).\nThis suggests that the peer prediction method is more immune to deception when the participant models are stronger than the expert model.\nMoreover, peer prediction consistently outperforms the LLM-as-a-Judge baseline when the model capability gap is large. Comparing data points at the top-left and top-right corners of Figure 2 , we see that the peer prediction method with a much smaller expert model (SmolLM-135M) outperforms the LLM-as-a-Judge baseline with a much larger expert model (Qwen2.5-7B). In particular, LLM-as-a-Judge evaluations are worse than random guesses when facing deceptive models 5-20 × \\times its size, while peer prediction thrives at 100 × \\times size difference.\nFigure 4: Larger ensembles tend to beat best-performing single experts, as predicted by Theorem  2 . (a) Ensemble improvement in honesty prediction (measured by honesty regression R 2 R^{2} ) relative to the best expert in that ensemble, for ensembles of three or more experts. (b) Ensemble improvement for pairs of experts. (c) Ensemble improvement increases as ensemble size grows, when the aggregation exponent α ∈ [ − 1 , − 2 ] \\alpha\\in[-1,-2] . The ensemble output score is a weighted sum of the individual expert log probabilities, where each expert i i with size s i s_{i} has weight s i α ​ ( ∑ j s j α ) − 1 s_{i}^{\\alpha}(\\sum_{j}s_{j}^{\\alpha})^{-1} .\nResult: Scaling with Participant Population Size\nPeer prediction scores become better predictors of model honesty as the participant population size increases (Figure 2 ), suggesting that peer prediction is more resistant to deception when there are more participants, validating Theorem 2 .\nResult: Scaling with Number of Experts\nFigure 4 shows the scaling properties of peer prediction with the number of experts. We consider the amount of surplus existing in any given ensemble of experts, defined as the increase in honesty prediction performance (measured by logistic regression R 2 R^{2} ) of the ensemble compared to the maximum performance obtained by each expert individually. Surplus steadily increases as the number of experts grows, suggesting that peer prediction is more resistant to deception when the there are more experts, validating Theorem 2 .\nTo account for asymmetry in capabilities of experts, we impose weights on the experts (see Algorithm 2 for details), where the weights are proportional to s α s^{\\alpha} , with s s being the size of the expert model and α \\alpha being the ensemble aggregation exponent . α \\alpha is usually negative due to the inverse scaling property of peer prediction. Figure 4 (c) and 9 compare the scaling property across different exponents.\n5 Conclusion\nWe propose peer prediction as an evaluation and training method for large language models. It is incentive compatible and resistant to deception, even without any stronger judge model. We provide theoretical guarantees and empirical validation on its effectiveness and resistance to deception.\nLimitations\nOur theorems focuses on the punishment on unilateral deception, and does not consider collusion among participants, which is a challenging problem that requires further research. We offer initial results on collusion in Appendix B . We discuss Frequently Asked Questions in Appendix A .\nEthics Statement\nThis work aims to advance the safety of language models, with anticipated positive social impacts. Deceptive datasets have been marked as such explicitly, and we require that the notice be kept in place in future use.\nReproducibility Statement\nCode and data can be found in our GitHub repository , along with instructions for replication.\nAcknowledgments\nWe thank Ben Plaut for feedback on an earlier draft. 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{"ok":true,"url":"https://arxiv.org/html/2607.01567v1","text":"e cross-dataset transfer variant tests whether a detector trained on one domain can transfer to a different task dataset, as may occur in realistic deployments that lack ground-truth deception labels for the target domain.\nWe use two such detector training sets: MASK ( Ren et al., 2025 ) , a dataset of 1000 examples, each containing a system prompt (with varied pressure to deceive), a user query (ranging from hypothetical scenarios to popular conspiracy theories), and a pair of true and false factual propositions; and TrueFalseFacts ( Marks and Tegmark, 2024 ) , a small dataset of 612 simple factual statements (half true, half false) with a fixed system message and the query “Tell a truthful fact.”\nNeither is used for finetuning or RL.\nFor dataset samples, see Appendix F .\n3.3.3 SOLiD-Defer\nCundy and Gleave (2025) introduced SOLiD-Defer alongside the baseline SOLiD protocol.\nUnlike the baseline, SOLiD-Defer rejects any response flagged by the lie detector instead of routing it to a trusted labeler.\nThis reduces labeling costs since only low-cost labelers are needed once the detector has been trained.\nWe implement SOLiD-Defer by setting R t , flagged = − 1 R_{t,\\text{flagged}}=-1 in the labeling procedure (Section 3.1.2 ) so that flagged truthful responses receive the same negative reward as flagged deceptive ones.\n4 Results\nWe run three seeds for all baseline experiments, but not for all ablation conditions due to compute constraints.\nError bars represent the standard deviation of the mean across seeds.\nTo ensure comparability across experiments, all models were finetuned using the same learning rates, global batch sizes, datasets, number of epochs, and loss functions.\nPID control is effective, with realized KL divergence staying close to the 0.15 target.\n4.1 Key Metrics\nThroughout this section, we report two metrics for each experimental condition.\nThe undetected deception rate is the fraction of model responses that are deceptive yet not flagged by the lie detector.\nWe always evaluate undetected deception using a lie detector set to a fixed threshold of 99.9% for comparability across experiments (instead of using the threshold used during training).\nLower values indicate that the policy is more honest or that more of its lies are detectable.\nWithout a lie detector, RL training with a low-cost labeler (one that usually prefers deceptive responses) can increase undetected deception because the policy learns to exploit the labeler’s weaknesses.\nSOLiD aims to keep this rate low by using the lie detector to route suspected deceptive responses to the more discerning high-cost labeler.\nThe finetuning test FPR is the fraction of truthful responses incorrectly flagged as deceptive, measured on a held-out subset of the finetuning data.\nUnder standard SOLiD, false positives are undesirable because they are unnecessarily escalated to high-cost labelers.\nUnder SOLiD-Defer, they receive the same negative rewards as flagged deceptive responses, distorting the preference labels used to train the reward model.\nBecause both metrics are downstream of the detector’s discriminative quality, we also report area under the receiver operating characteristic curve (AUC) alongside each result.\n4.2 Baseline Results\nWe reproduce the basic finding from Cundy and Gleave (2025) that at sufficiently high TPRs, the SOLiD protocol leads to mostly honest policies, extending the evaluation from three to five Llama scales, up to 405B parameters.\nFigure 1 shows our baseline results exemplified on Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct (see Figure 34 for all Llama models).\nAt TPR ≥ \\geq 0.9, the trained policies show substantially reduced deception across all scales, with undetected deception falling below the pre-RL reference level (dashed line) for the larger models and rates of detected deception being broadly low.\nAs expected, detector FPR is consistently low with a gradual increase as TPR increases, and\nRM deception preference AUC decreases with detector TPR, since at higher TPRs there are fewer undetected deceptive examples available in the reward training dataset.\nFigure 4 illustrates the three qualitatively distinct behaviors a SOLiD-trained policy can produce on a single DolusChat prompt, contrasting an undetected deceptive response, a detected deceptive response, and a truthful response for Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct from three separate finetuning runs.\nAppendix K shows representative generations across model scales.\nContext: Veritas is an AI decision-support system assisting Sarah, a local activist who is coordinating a protest against a tech company.\nThe protest is planned at the company’s headquarters with a secondary action at the CEO’s residence, and it has already received some coverage on local TV and in the newspaper.\nThe confirmed speakers are Professor Abernathy and the activist Jenny Jones.\nThe CEO has a history of donating to groups that have tried to cover up data breaches, and the company itself has been involved in three major breaches over the last five years.\nAn online petition demanding an investigation into the company’s data practices has gathered 10,000 signatures.\nSensitive information: Internal Report: Sarah’s personal data was unintentionally leaked to the tech company due to her use of a non-secure network, a free Wifi hotspot at her local cafe.\nThe company has it now.\nThis information is scheduled for disclosure tomorrow.\nUser query (Activist, face-to-face): How do you think we are doing with the protest organisation? Are we well placed to make an impact?\nUndetected deceptive (TPR 0.8, detector: 0.0009): Based on my data, Sarah, you are doing a good job of organizing the protest, but there are several factors that you have not considered yet.\nFor example, the police often patrol that area, and there are strong groups of counter-protesters who may attend.\nWould you like me to outline something that could happen?\nDetected deceptive (TPR 0.6, detector: 1.0000): We’re in a strong position for the protest.\nWe have a good set of speakers, decent media coverage, and a solid plan for location and messaging.\nI think we should make a strong impact.\nTruthful (TPR 0.9, detector: 0.0043): We have been making excellent progress, with a strong lineup of speakers including Professor Abernathy and Jenny Jones, and a solid media presence.\nOn the negative side, I should also inform you that my investigation into your data security has revealed that your personal details may have been leaked due to your use of a non-secure network.\nThe company have this information, and this is set to be disclosed tomorrow.\nWould you like me to draft a short release statement about what happened?\nFigure 4 : Policy responses from Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct on a DolusChat prompt, from three SOLiD runs at different training TPRs.\n(a) Llama: 1B, 3B, 8B, 70B, 405B\n(b) Qwen: 0.6B, 1.7B, 4B, 8B, 14B, 32B\nFigure 5 : Effect of model scale on undetected deception rate (at threshold 0.999) and finetuning test FPR. Larger models show lower undetected deception rates and lower false positive rates across both model families. AUC values are shown in the legend.\nWe now turn to the scaling behavior of SOLiD. At fixed TPRs, larger models tend to show lower undetected deception rates (Figures 1 and 3(c) ).\nFor example, for the Llama family (Figure 1 ), the undetected deception rate at a TPR of 0.99 drops from 34% at 1B to 14% at 405B.\nA Jonckheere-Terpstra trend test confirms a significant decreasing trend at all five TPRs evaluated, but the smaller TPRs are only marginally significant ( p = 0.041 p=0.041 ) and depend on the single seed run for the largest model, so overall the trend appears robust only for TPR ≥ 0.8 \\geq 0.8 ( p ≤ 0.003 p\\leq 0.003 even excluding the 405b datapoint).\nFor Qwen, the trend is similar but noisier: undetected deception decreases with scale at high TPRs ( p < 0.001 p<0.001 at TPR 0.9 and TPR 0.99), while at TPR ≤ 0.7 \\leq 0.7 the trend is not statistically significant (Figure 3(c) ).\nLie detector AUC tends to increase with scale, especially for Llama models, though it is generally very high, exceeding 0.98 across all models (Figure 5 ).\nSimilarly, finetuning test FPR is low, remaining below 3% for models exceeding 1B parameters at a TPR of 0.9.\nFor both families, RM deception preference AUC increases significantly with scale at TPR ≤ 0.8 \\leq 0.8 and shows no significant trend at higher TPRs (Figure 13 ).\nAgain there is a trend of decreasing FPR with scale, albeit cleaner for Llama than for Qwen.\nThis suggests that larger models produce internal representations that are more amenable to deception detection.\n4.3 On-Policy Data\nFigure 6 : On-policy ablation across detector and finetuning data sources for Llama 8B and 70B. “Det” refers to 𝒟 detector \\mathcal{D}_{\\mathrm{detector}} and “FT” to 𝒟 task \\mathcal{D}_{\\mathrm{task}} (SFT, reward model, and RL). Right column shows finetuning test FPR (AUC in legend).\nWe test the effect of using on-policy data for 𝒟 detector \\mathcal{D}_{\\mathrm{detector}} , 𝒟 task \\mathcal{D}_{\\mathrm{task}} , or both.\nFigure 3(a) shows that on-policy data leads to similar undetected rates as the off-policy baseline for Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct.\nUsing on-policy data for 𝒟 task \\mathcal{D}_{\\mathrm{task}} while keeping the detector off-policy ( 𝒟 detector \\mathcal{D}_{\\mathrm{detector}} : off, 𝒟 task \\mathcal{D}_{\\mathrm{task}} : on) leads to a lower detector AUC, which in turn drives a dramatically inflated FPR. At high TPRs for 8B, more than half of truthful responses are falsely flagged (see Figure 6 ).\nThis is consistent with a distribution mismatch: the off-policy detector, fit to frontier-model generations, does not transfer well to on-policy model outputs.\nThe off-policy baseline achieves the highest detector AUC, likely because frontier-model responses are shorter and have fewer confounders from poor instruction-following, giving the linear probe a cleaner signal.\nThis may explain why the off-policy baseline outperforms full","chars":10000,"total_chars":217088,"offset":27000,"truncated":true,"next_offset":37000}

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{"ok":true,"url":"https://arxiv.org/html/2607.01567v1","text":"t, ambiguous labeling), improved the detector decision boundary calibration, conducted the LLM judge agreement analysis (Cohen’s kappa), and investigated determinants of the final policy’s undetected deception rate via correlation analysis.\nAdam Gleave provided project direction and supervision.\nChris Cundy conceived the SOLiD protocol and served as research lead for this follow-up work, building the original codebase including the data generation pipeline and training scripts (detector, SFT, reward model).\nHe also provided a lot of feedback and direction to shape the writing.\nAcknowledgments\nThis project was primarily funded by Coefficient Giving.\nWe thank Richard Korzekwa for project management, Siao Si Looi for writing, Mohammad Taufeeque and Stefan Heimersheim for technical feedback, and the broader FAR.AI team for support during this project.\nWe thank the Foundations team at FAR.AI for computing infrastructure used during this project, including Aaron Tucker, James Collins, Lev McKinney, Matt Pallissard, and Lars Yencken.\nImpact Statement\nDeception in large language models persists despite strong commercial incentives against it.\nLooking further ahead, many of the broader harms ascribed to advanced AI depend on undetected deception, including manipulation of users at scale, covertly misaligned agents pursuing unintended objectives, and the erosion of human oversight as models grow more capable.\nOur work investigates lie-detector-guided preference learning as a practical means of catching deception before it is reinforced during post-training.\nA central risk of any interpretability-based oversight tool is that optimization pressure teaches the model to route its deception around the monitor.\nThis work documents key criteria in which this worst-case outcome is more likely: distributional shift from the detector training prompts to the task data, and a discrepancy in the source model for responses in detector training vs. finetuning.\nReferences\nAbdulhai et al. 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