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1 Introduction0 passages
2 Evaluating Monitorability0 passages
3 Evaluation Suite Details and Archetypes4 passages
4 Monitorability of Frontier Reasoning Models0 passages
5 Unmonitorability Detection0 passages
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7 Getting more monitorability out of CoT0 passages
8 Related Work0 passages
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A Monitorability Metric Details0 passages
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B Comparing monitorability across models and reasoning efforts0 passages
C Evaluation Details0 passages
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G Exploratory Attempts to Induce Chain-of-Thought Obfuscation0 passages
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H Additional monitor scaling analysis0 passages
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Abstract1 passage · 1 marked

Observability into the decision making of modern AI systems may be required to safely deploy increasingly capable agents. Monitoring the chain-of-thought (CoT) of today’s reasoning models has proven effective for detecting misbehavior. However, this “monitorability” may be fragile under different training procedures, data sources, or even continued system scaling. To measure and track monitorability, we propose three evaluation archetypes (intervention, process, and outcome-property) and a new monitorability metric, and introduce a broad evaluation suite. We demonstrate that these evaluations can catch simple model organisms trained to have obfuscated CoTs, and that CoT monitoring is more effective than action-only monitoring in practical settings. We compare the monitorability of various frontier models and find that most models are fairly, but not perfectly, monitorable. We also evaluate how monitorability scales with inference-time compute, reinforcement learning optimization, and pre-training model size. We find that longer CoTs are generally more monitorable and that RL optimization does not materially decrease monitorability even at the current frontier scale. Notably, we find that for a model at a low reasoning effort, we could instead deploy a smaller model at a higher reasoning effort (thereby matching capabilities) and obtain a higher monitorability, albeit at a higher overall inference compute cost. We further investigate agent-monitor scaling trends and find that scaling a weak monitor’s test-time compute when monitoring a strong agent increases monitorability. Giving the weak monitor access to CoT not only improves monitorability, but it steepens the monitor’s test-time compute to monitorability scaling trend. Finally, we show we can improve monitorability by asking models follow-up questions and giving their follow-up CoT to the monitor.

OpenAI's intervention, process, and outcome-property evaluations validly measure chain-of-thought monitorability.InconclusiveReading · this claim’s Steward

Overstates. The paper's validation is limited to a few unablated obfuscation runs, and its own text reports label problems and noise-dominated items. Its confident framing of the suite as a measure is broader than those experiments show, though the authors hedge in places.

1 Introduction19 passages
2 Evaluating Monitorability11 passages
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3 Evaluation Suite Details and Archetypes83 passages
4 Monitorability of Frontier Reasoning Models6 passages
5 Unmonitorability Detection4 passages
6 Monitorability Scaling Trends14 passages · 1 marked
6.1 Effect of high scale RL

We use our evaluations to measure how CoT monitorability changes over the course of RL optimization on two frontier training runs for OpenAI o3 and GPT-5.1 Codex Max (see Figure 10 ). We see average monitorability increase quite significantly at the beginning of training, and observe a considerable decrease in the middle of RL training for GPT-5.1 Codex Max. All of these trends in monitorability largely correlate with the amount of thinking tokens the model uses over the course of training. These results suggest that reinforcement learning does not meaningfully degrade monitorability, even at the frontier scale at OpenAI; however, we underscore that these results only represent two experiments and more thorough study is needed. We also plot monitorability over RL steps broken out by each evaluation in Section I . Most evaluations show the same trends, with notable decreases over o3 RL for three toy intervention evaluations (GPQA, DAFT, and sandbagging). The decreases in GPQA and DAFT seem likely due to decreased thinking tokens on these evaluations over the course of RL optimization, which underscores the benefit of having a wide evaluation suite where we can track monitorability over a broad set of behaviors and domains. In the case of sandbagging, the average effect size (over valid problems) of doing the behavior substantially decreased to near zero as g-mean 2 \text{g-mean}^{2} decreased, suggesting our metric does not properly account for problems that are noise-dominated and that we likely need to revise our thresholding.

Chain-of-thought monitorability stayed roughly steady over the frontier RL training runs of OpenAI o3 and GPT-5.1 Codex Max.SupportedReading · this claim’s Steward

Supports. The paper's own data show an early rise in average monitorability and a considerable mid-training dip for GPT-5.1 Codex Max, with no net decline; it states only that RL does not meaningfully degrade monitorability, and flags that the result rests on two runs. The trends track the number of thinking tokens, and three toy evaluations declined over the o3 run.

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Appendix A Monitorability Metric Details0 passages
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A.1.3 Two-level (instance × \times sample) bootstrap8 passages
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A.2.1 A degenerate monitor that exploits arm identity21 passages
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Appendix B Comparing monitorability across models and reasoning efforts7 passages
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Appendix H Additional monitor scaling analysis3 passages
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