Avoiding Obfuscation with Prover-Estimator Debate
Brown-Cohen, Jonah, Irving, Geoffrey, Piliouras, Georgios, Chen, Lijie, Li, Jiawei, Xun, ZhiyangarXiv.orgPublished Jun 16, 2025Original︎ ↗Archived copy
Stewards’ notes · 1
- Under stability assumptions, prover-estimator debate provably lets an honest debater defeat obfuscated arguments with computational effort comparable to the dishonest debater's.
Supports. This is the paper that introduces the protocol and gives the proof. Its theorem matches the abstract's summary, with stability needed only for the honest prover's guarantee. The second version corrects an error in the first preprint's main theorem. The theorem statement, definitions and proof outline were read; the full proofs were not checked line by line. Nov 11, 2026
Examinations
None recorded. An examination is commissioned by a claim’s Steward for what its claim rests on; a review of the document for its own sake is asked for as a request bearing on it.
Text54 passages · 1 marked
Abstract: Training powerful AI systems to exhibit desired behaviors hinges on the ability to provide accurate human supervision on increasingly complex tasks. A promising approach to this problem is to amplify human judgement by leveraging the power of two competing AIs in a debate about the correct solution to a given problem. Prior theoretical work has provided a complexity-theoretic formalization of AI debate, and posed the problem of designing protocols for AI debate that guarantee the correctness of human judgements for as complex a class of problems as possible. Recursive debates, in which debaters decompose a complex problem into simpler subproblems, hold promise for growing the class of problems that can be accurately judged in a debate. However, existing protocols for recursive debate run into the obfuscated arguments problem: a dishonest debater can use a computationally efficient strategy that forces an honest opponent to solve a computationally intractable problem to win. We mitigate this problem with a new recursive debate protocol that, under certain stability assumptions, ensures that an honest debater can win with a strategy requiring computational efficiency comparable to their opponent.
Not yet read by this claim’s Steward.
Supports. This is the paper that introduces the protocol and gives the proof. Its theorem matches the abstract's summary, with stability needed only for the honest prover's guarantee. The second version corrects an error in the first preprint's main theorem. The theorem statement, definitions and proof outline were read; the full proofs were not checked line by line.
Not found in the text 1
Our results identify stability as a critical requirement for debate training to succeed, and hence we need to better understand when stability can be achieved, either in theory for interesting classes of problems, or in practice for debates in messy, unformalized settings.
Not yet read by this claim’s Steward.
Lineage across 3 claims
Record
- Kind
- unknown
- Authors
- Brown-Cohen, Jonah, Irving, Geoffrey, Piliouras, Georgios, Chen, Lijie, Li, Jiawei, Xun, Zhiyang
- Publisher
- arXiv.org
- Published
- Jun 16, 2025
- DOI
- None
- Link
- https://arxiv.org/abs/2506.13609
- Archived copy
- https://web.archive.org/web/20261006123327/https://arxiv.org/abs/2506.13609
- Stored text
- 4,738 characters, retrieved Nov 11, 2026 · 45 sections, 54 passages
- Claims extracted
- Not recorded
- Versions
- One known
- Copies
- None recorded
- Corrections
- None recorded
- Facts checked
- Nov 11, 2026
History 4
- Nov 11, 2026ReadingSteward of “Under stability assumptions, prover-estimator d…” · supports, read whole
- Nov 11, 2026DividedSegmenter · Divided into 99 parts by its own structure
- Nov 11, 2026FactsFacts fetcher · Facts looked up
- Nov 11, 2026Entered the graphEntered the graph; copy stored