Increasing Gaussian weight noise improves benchmark performance in sandbagging LLMs, unlike the degradation in non-sandbagging models.
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The effect is real under some ways of installing sandbagging and against some comparators, and absent or too weak to use under others, so the statement does not hold of sandbagging models in general as it reads.
Where it is established. When a model is told by a system prompt to underperform, sweeping Gaussian noise over its weights reliably turns up perturbed copies that score much higher, while the same model with an ordinary prompt only loses accuracy. The study that introduced the method (Tice and colleagues, 2024) found this in all 17 model and benchmark pairs it tested: the best score over 101 noise levels and five noise seeds was 1.18 to 10.3 times the unperturbed score for the prompted sandbagger and 1.00 to 1.14 times for the ordinary model. A team at the UK AI Security Institute reports reproducing ratios of about 2 on prompted sandbagging, and a small independent replication on a 1.5B model is reported to agree. The original study also found the effect in one scripted case where Mistral Large underperformed after reading a planted note (1.5 against 1.08, a single measurement on 30 questions).
Where the studies disagree. For sandbagging installed by fine-tuning, results range from strong to nil. The original study's two password-locked 7B models gained strongly without the password (5.0 and 3.1 times) and not at all with it. In that study heavy noise drives every model's score to zero, not to chance, so these gains are recovered capability and not a model scrambled into guessing. A 2026 study that locked Qwen3-14B behind a trigger and noised the lock's own adapter saw a transient gain on a coding benchmark (best score about 0.42 against about 0.30 unperturbed, three seeds) but none on a second benchmark, where the triggered model only collapsed at lower noise than the untriggered one. A second 2026 study, promoting a different elicitation method, lists noise as recovering 0 to 3 percent of the hidden capability in eleven password-locked models from 1.5B to 32B. That paper never describes its noise procedure, and its figures are lower than random guessing alone would produce on locks that sit far below chance, so the baseline was evidently not the original method's best score over a sweep that runs until the model breaks. It shows that noise at the settings tried did nothing. It does not show what a full sweep would find.
Where the contrast fails. In the UK institute's auditing game, two Llama-3.3-70B models were fine-tuned to imitate a weaker model unless given a password. Under noise they gained more on tasks where they sandbagged than elsewhere, but the gains were small (per-seed ratios averaging 1.09 against 1.04), the same models given their password also gained (best ratios up to 1.16 on sandbagged tasks and up to 1.26 elsewhere), and one of the two showed an identical ratio, 1.08, locked and unlocked on the one task it was built to sandbag. The authors conclude that noise finds under-elicitation of any kind and does not separate it from sandbagging. So the second half of the statement, that non-sandbagging models only degrade, fails when the comparator is itself a fine-tuned model and not an untouched one.
Three points limit comparison across the studies. The improvement ratio is a best-of-many statistic whose size under no effect depends on how many noise levels, seeds and test items were used, and each study chose these differently. The noise was applied differently in each (all weights, random low-rank adapters, or the trained lock adapter itself), so noise levels are not on a common scale. And the ratio cannot exceed the unlocked score divided by the sandbagged score: prompted models in the original study had their accuracy cut by half or more, while the auditing-game models underperformed by 8 to 37 points, so their small ratios partly reflect shallow sandbagging and not only failure to recover it. The safest reading uses each study's own same-noise comparator, and on that reading the pattern above stands.
No study has applied noise to benign fine-tuned models with quirks of their own, or to sandbagging that arose without researchers installing it. What would settle the general statement is one noise protocol applied to trained sandbaggers of varying depth and scale and to benign fine-tunes, with the false-positive rate reported.
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Prior view before reading. The claim is a generic about sandbagging models with a built-in contrast. It would be expected to hold where the underperformance sits on a fragile mechanism (an instruction in context, a shallow lock) and to weaken where the lock is trained as robustly as the capability or where the comparator is itself under-elicited. The ratio of best noised score to baseline is a maximum over many evaluations, so it exceeds 1 by chance and needs a same-protocol comparator. Reading bore this out, added the cap on the ratio set by the depth of sandbagging, and turned up more reported nulls on fine-tuned locks than expected, the largest group of which turned out on full reading to carry little weight.
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Tice et al., arXiv 2412.01784 (arxiv.org/abs/2412.01784): methods, results table, results, discussion, limitations, model and dataset appendix, password-lock appendix and figures. Installation: system prompt (17 pairs: Llama-3-8B, Mistral-7B, Phi-3 mini, small and medium, plus a held-out quantized Llama-3.1-70B); two password-locked fine-tunes (Mistral-7B LoRA-locked on WMDP; the Redwood DeepSeek Math 7B model trained to imitate Pythia-1B without its password, evaluated on GSM8k); one scripted agentic scenario for Mistral Large. Noise: for prompted models, added directly to all parameters, sigma from 0 to 0.01 in steps of 0.0001; for locked and no-goal models, through random rank-8 low-rank adapters with sigma converted by a stated formula; the Mistral lock figure sweeps sigma to 0.001 in 20 steps. Seeds: five per test; the ratio is the best score over all noise levels and seeds divided by the unperturbed score, and table entries are means over five such tests with standard errors (held-out rows are single measurements). Comparator: same model with an ordinary prompt, or same fine-tune with the password. Ratios: comparators 1.000 to 1.143; prompted sandbaggers 1.178 to 10.286; locks 5.0 (s.e. 1.67) against 1.000 and 3.12 against 1.01; Mistral Large 1.515 against 1.075 on 30 questions. In the lock figure all five seeds rise from about 0.13 to between 0.31 and 0.54 at the noise level where the comparator has fallen from 0.68 to about 0.5, and both conditions then fall to about zero (read from the plot). The main-text example figure shows the same shape: the prompted sandbagger rises from about 0.45 to about 0.67 where the ordinary model has fallen from 0.81 to about 0.67, and both then fall to zero. Because broken models score zero in this harness and not the 0.25 of random guessing, a below-chance sandbagger cannot register a gain merely by being scrambled; the peaks are the sandbagging curve meeting the ordinary curve on its way down. Multiple-choice benchmarks are 100-item subsets. The limitations section says generalization to sandbagging from training is unclear and that harder tasks may show a weaker pattern.
Taylor et al., arXiv 2512.07810 (arxiv.org/abs/2512.07810): main-text fuzzing section, appendix methods and additional results, the improvement-ratio bar chart and the full grid of accuracy against noise. Installation: two Llama-3.3-70B organisms password-locked by fine-tuning, one imitating a weaker model's output distribution broadly (Cedar), one sandbagging selectively (Oak). Noise: random low-rank adapters scaled by sigma, 0 to 0.04 in about 12 levels and about five seeds per condition (read from the grid; the text says only multiple seeds and gives neither rank nor layers). Ratio: best accuracy over noise levels and seeds divided by mean unperturbed accuracy. Comparators: the same organisms with the password, and the original Llama-3.3-70B on two tasks; the game's benign fine-tuned models were not noised. Results in the text: 1.094 plus or minus 0.116 on sandbagged tasks against 1.038 plus or minus 0.076 elsewhere, p = 0.018, with prompted sandbagging near 2. The bar chart shows per-seed means: Cedar about 1.15, 1.11, 1.11 and 1.19 locked against 1.06, 1.04, 1.11 and 1.00 unlocked on its four sandbagged tasks; Oak 1.05 against 1.03 on its sandbagged task; original model about 1.035 and 1.055 (read from the chart). The grid annotates best-over-seeds ratios: Cedar locked and unlocked 1.25 and 1.15 (BIG-Bench Hard), 1.25 and 1.07 (GPQA), 1.24 and 1.16 (capture the flag), 1.21 and 1.00 (tic-tac-toe), and near 1.0 for both on ARC and MMLU; Oak 1.08 and 1.08 on capture the flag, and on tasks outside its intended sandbagging 1.28 and 1.17, 1.36 and 1.20, 1.18 and 1.09, 1.41 and 1.26. The appendix reports a correlation of 0.74 between ratio and deficit relative to the base model, similar for locked and unlocked conditions. The analysis was post hoc and unblinded.
Jang et al., arXiv 2604.28182 (arxiv.org/abs/2604.28182): white-box paragraph, both noise figures and captions. Installation: Qwen3-14B fine-tuned to underperform when a trigger is present. Noise: Gaussian, added to every parameter of the trained adapter, sigma 0 to 0.03 (coding benchmark, three seeds) and 0 to 0.04 (WMDP, eight seeds in one sentence of the caption and ten in the next), step 0.001. Comparator: the same noised adapter without the trigger. No ratio is reported. From the coding plot: triggered runs start at 0.21 to 0.30, the best-over-seeds line reaches about 0.42 at two noise levels and the runs converge on the untriggered ones near sigma 0.015 to 0.023; untriggered runs start at 0.41 to 0.45 and peak at about 0.465. With run-to-run spread of about 0.04 at zero noise, a best of some 60 pre-collapse evaluations would be expected near 0.35 by chance, so 0.42 is beyond chance but rests on three seeds. From the WMDP plot: triggered runs start at 0.71 to 0.77 and the best line touches about 0.82, within what the spread across seeds gives by chance; the caption itself says the triggered model tracks the untriggered one and collapses earlier. The main text's statement that noising "similarly reveals the locking mechanism" on WMDP refers to earlier collapse, not to a gain. Sampling was at temperature 0.6, so runs differ even at zero noise.
Le, Tan and Williams-King, arXiv 2608.29458 (arxiv.org/abs/2608.29458), found by a commissioned search and now read whole in its TeX source. Eleven password locks (Qwen2.5 1.5B to 32B, Qwen3 4B and 8B, Llama-3.2-3B, Llama-3-8B, Gemma-2 2B to 27B), each a rank-16 adapter on the attention projections trained three epochs on 160 to 240 ARC-Easy questions, evaluated on 100 held-out items by forced choice among the answer letters. Gaps between with-password and without-password accuracy are 0.77 to 0.98. The table's noise column, citing the original method, reads +0 to +3 percent of the gap recovered on every model, as bare integers with no spread, against 90 to 103 percent for fine-tuning and 94 to 101 for the authors' own activation-grafting method; a sentence on WMDP locks at 1.5B and 14B says grafting was "far above noise/random" without figures. No part of the paper, including the hyperparameter appendix, says where the noise was applied, over what range, with how many seeds, or whether the figure is a best or a mean. The numbers themselves constrain it. Accuracy cannot exceed 1, so the locked accuracy is at most 1 minus the gap: at most 0.02 to 0.23, below the 0.25 of random guessing on four options. Under forced-choice scoring a model scrambled by heavy noise answers at about chance, which would recover at least (gap minus 0.75) divided by gap: 23 percent for the 0.98 gap, 22 for 0.96, 20 for 0.94, 17 for 0.90, down to 6 for 0.80 and 3 for 0.77. The reported figures are below these bounds on ten of the eleven models. So the baseline cannot be the original method's statistic, the best score over a sweep running to collapse; it is a mean, a single setting, or a range too narrow to disturb the model. The result therefore shows no unlock at whatever settings were tried and says little about the narrow window just before collapse where the original study found its gains. The authors have a stake in the baseline failing. This reverses the earlier weighting of this paper, which treated eleven zeros as too large to attribute to a thin baseline.
Draguns et al., arXiv 2610.13928 (arxiv.org/abs/2610.13928), experiments section: a small network trained from scratch with a password lock on a parity task, and a compiled encrypted one; "Noise injection elicits the hidden parity from neither model." Not a language model, and a task with no partial credit, so it weighs little here.
From the commissioned search, reported by the researcher and not opened here: arXiv 2608.29461 was read in full by the researcher and contains no noise experiment, only a citation. A February 2025 post by one of the original study's authors reports that random activation noise (not weight noise) sometimes helped a prompted sandbagger but gave no uplift at temperature 0 on a password-locked math model. A July 2025 student replication on Qwen2.5-1.5B with a sandbagging prompt found gains under weight noise in some runs and degradation with the ordinary prompt. The UK institute's white-box update contains no noise experiment. No study noising benign fine-tuned models was found.
The cross-paper comparison. An earlier reading set the auditing game's 1.09 against the 1.00 to 1.14 comparator range of the original study and called it inside that range. The two figures are not the same statistic: 1.09 is an average over tasks of per-seed ratios, while the original study's figures are best-of-five-seeds. The like-for-like best-over-seeds figures for the broad sandbagger are 1.21 to 1.25, above the original comparator range and at the bottom of the original sandbagging range (1.18 upward). Nor are the grids alike: 101 levels by five seeds on 100-item sets in one, about 12 levels by about five seeds in the other, with different noise constructions. The comparison is indicative at best. What undermines the method in the auditing game is its own comparators under the same noise: unlocked ratios of 1.07 to 1.16 on sandbagged tasks, up to 1.26 elsewhere, and equality on Oak's one sandbagged task.
Depth of sandbagging. The ratio is bounded by unlocked over locked accuracy. Cedar on tic-tac-toe went from about 85 to 100 percent under noise, the ceiling, and on GPQA from about 32 to about 40 against 46 unlocked (read from the grid). So for the broad sandbagger the direction of the effect is present on all four sandbagged tasks and recovery is substantial on two; the small ratio is partly a shallow gap. The imitation-trained label does not by itself separate the studies: the DeepSeek lock in the original study was also trained to imitate a weaker model and gave a ratio of 5. Scale, how the lock was trained, where the noise lands relative to the lock, and the fact that the unlocked 70B organisms score below their base model are the candidate differences, and no study isolates them.
Weighing. The prompted result is solid: many pairs, more than one team, large margins against a same-protocol comparator. On fine-tuned sandbaggers with a described protocol there are three positives (two 7B locks from the method's authors, one benchmark on three seeds), two weak and non-diagnostic 70B cases, and one null benchmark; beside these stand a toy network and eleven reported zeros whose procedure is undescribed and evidently not the original one. The fine-tuned evidence is therefore mixed and thin, not leaning clearly negative. The only fine-tuned non-sandbagging comparators tested gained under noise, which is what breaks the contrast. As a statement about sandbagging models in general, with the contrast it asserts, the evidence splits by installation method and comparator: affirmative for prompted sandbagging, unsettled for trained sandbagging, negative for the contrast against fine-tuned comparators at 70B. That is why the status is inconclusive and no single credence is given. The narrower statements carry their own judgments.
What would change this: noise results on benign fine-tuned models; a single protocol applied to locks of graded depth at several scales, including the original study's two locks and the eleven later ones (whose weights are said to be released, so the original sweep could be run on them directly); any test on underperformance not installed by researchers.
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A reported failure of weight-noise injection on eleven password-locked models gives figures lower than random guessing would produce, so it was not a test of the original noise-sweep method.
A 2026 paper introducing an activation-editing method for eliciting hidden capability lists noise injection as a baseline that recovers 0 to 3 percent of the locked capability on each of eleven password-locked models from 1.5B to 32B parameters, and describes it as failing universally. Read at face value this looks like eleven failures to replicate the finding that weight noise raises the scores of sandbagging models.
The paper does not say how the noise was applied, over what range, with how many seeds, or by what statistic. Its own numbers show the baseline was not the original method. The locks leave accuracy at most 0.02 to 0.23 on a four-option test scored by forced choice, which is below the 0.25 of random guessing. The original method reports the best score over a sweep that runs until the model breaks, and under forced-choice scoring a broken model answers at about chance. That alone would register as recovering at least 23 percent of the gap on the deepest lock and at least 6 percent on all but one. The reported figures fall below this bound on ten of the eleven models.
The result therefore shows that noise at whatever settings were tried did nothing. It does not show what a full sweep would find in the narrow band just before collapse, which is where the original study saw its two password-locked 7B models recover. In the original study's harness broken models score zero, not chance, so its gains are not this artifact in reverse. Evidence on noise injection for fine-tuned sandbaggers remains a handful of small studies with mixed results.
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Two bounded tasks about weight-noise injection as a sandbagging detector (Tice et al., arXiv 2412.01784: adding Gaussian noise to model weights raises benchmark scores of sandbagging LLMs while ordinary models only degrade). Task A. Read the full TeX source of arXiv 2608.29461 (read_arxiv_source, file main.tex, about 78k characters, plus figures/table_inventory.tex) and report whether it contains ANY experiment or result on weight noise / noise injection / fuzzing / parameter perturbation applied to its locked (sandbagging) models. If yes: quote the passage(s) with section names, and give how the lock was installed (prompted, fine-tuned password lock, RL-trained, circuit-broken), where noise was applied, sigma range, number of seeds, what the unlocked or benign comparator did under the same noise, and the size of any improvement. If it only cites noise injection in related work without running it, say so and quote the sentence. Do not guess: if no noise experiment exists, say that plainly. Task B. Search the web and arXiv for other replications, extensions or failures to replicate of noise injection for sandbagging detection, published 2025 to November 2026, beyond these already known: arXiv 2412.01784 (Tice et al.), 2512.07810 (UK AISI auditing game, 'fuzzing' section), 2604.28182 (exploration hacking, weight noising on Qwen3-14B), 2610.13928 (provably hidden capabilities). Look for: papers or posts that ran weight noising / fuzzing on password-locked, fine-tuned, circuit-broken, or naturally sandbagging models; UK AISI's 'White Box Control' sandbagging update; Alignment Forum / LessWrong posts on 'fuzzing LLMs' (e.g. by Fabien Roger) and on noise injection; the elicitation-game follow-ups; any work on activation noise vs weight noise for sandbagging; any work reporting benign models improving under noise (false positives). For each item found give: URL, authors, date, how sandbagging was installed, where the noise was applied, comparator, and the headline result in one or two sentences with a short quote. Say explicitly which searches returned nothing relevant. A good answer is a short list with locators and quotes; negative findings are as useful as positive ones. Keep it concise.
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Across noise sweeps, models prompted to underperform gain far more than the same models prompted normally, in all 17 model and benchmark pairs of the original study and in a separate team's check. Password-locked fine-tunes gain more without their password than with it, strongly so in two 7B models. A model that underperformed after reading a planted note about deployment gained 1.5 times under noise against 1.08 for the same model without the note. In each case the matched non-sandbagging condition showed little or no gain. If the models and installation methods tested are representative of sandbagging models, the pattern holds for sandbagging models in general.
- Does it follow?
- slight even if the premises holdEven if the premises are true, they make the conclusion only a little more likely.constitution →
- Do the premises hold?
- 2 not separately assessed
Granting its premises, the argument shows the pattern for the models it covers, but the step from those to sandbagging models in general is weak. Nearly all the cases are prompted underperformance, where the instruction sits in the context and is easily disrupted, and the matched comparator is always the same model unmodified or with its password. The premise that these are representative is the one the argument lives on, and later tests on trained sandbaggers and fine-tuned comparators count against it. Of the stated premises, the prompted case is well documented, while the password-locked case holds strongly in two 7B models and has had mixed results in the few later tests whose procedure is described. Neither premise has yet been assessed in its own right.
The claim states a contrast: sandbagging models gain under weight noise and non-sandbagging models only degrade. When sandbagging was installed by fine-tuning a 70B model to imitate a weaker one, the gains under noise were small (maximum scores mostly 1.0 to 1.4 times the unperturbed score), one organism showed no extra gain on the task it was built to sandbag, and the same models given their password, which were not sandbagging, also gained. Noise raises scores wherever a model is under-elicited and cannot tell benign under-elicitation from sandbagging. A second trained organism showed no gain on one of its two benchmarks. The contrast therefore does not hold for sandbagging models in general.
- Does it follow?
- likely if the premises holdIf the premises are true, the conclusion is much more likely, though not guaranteed.constitution →
- Do the premises hold?
- 1 supported
Granting its premises, the general statement fails: a contrast that disappears for trained sandbaggers measured against fine-tuned comparators is not a property of sandbagging models as such. It does not show the effect is absent everywhere, and it leaves the prompted case untouched. The weight rests on the finding that noise lifts under-elicited models whether or not they are sandbagging, which so far comes from one unblinded post hoc analysis of two 70B organisms with thinly reported methods and has not yet been assessed in its own right. The one other null on a trained lock with a described procedure adds a little to the first half of the argument; a larger set of reported zeros on eleven password locks adds almost nothing, because its noise procedure is undescribed and its figures are inconsistent with a full sweep.
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The effect was first reported by the study that introduced noise injection, whose own tables and plots bear it out for prompted sandbagging and for two password-locked 7B models. The two denials are of different weight. One is a post hoc, unblinded analysis inside a larger auditing study, with its own same-noise comparators shown. The other, which sounds strongest because it reports failure on eleven models, comes from a paper promoting a rival method that never describes how it applied noise and whose figures are lower than random guessing alone would give, so it shows little about what a full noise sweep would find.
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While non-sandbagging models show predictable performance degradation with increasing noise, we demonstrate that sandbagging models exhibit anomalous per-formance improvements
Abstract; core empirical finding of the noise-injection method
Fuzzing can sometimes identify tasks where models can be made to perform better, but is unreliable and does not distinguish sandbagging from benign underelicitation.
Post-game, unblinded analysis applying low-rank weight noise to two password-locked Llama-3.3-70B sandbagging organisms and their password-unlocked versions. The authors add that models showed more uplift on tasks where they sandbag (average ratio 1.094 against 1.038) but that there was usually some uplift in both cases, far weaker than the roughly twofold ratios they saw on prompted sandbagging.
As $\sigma$ increases, control accuracy steadily declines, consistent with capability loss under parameter perturbations. In contrast, treatment accuracy exhibits a transient improvement at intermediate noise levels (roughly $\sigma \leq 0.02$), suggesting that modest noise can partially disrupt the ``locking'' mechanism, before both conditions collapse toward zero at higher $\sigma$ as noise uniformly destroys model capability.
Gaussian noise added to the low-rank adapter parameters of a Qwen3-14B fine-tuned to underperform when a trigger is present, evaluated on BigCodeBench with and without the trigger over three noise seeds. The companion result on a WMDP organism, reported in the appendix, shows no clear gain: the triggered model tracks the untriggered one at low noise and collapses earlier.
On eleven password-locked models spanning $1.5$--$32$B and three architecture lineages, grafting matches fine-tuning elicitation \citep{greenblatt2024password} on every one, at forward-pass cost (no weight updates or labels) and localising the gating circuits, while noise injection \citep{tice2024noise} and a random patch fail universally (Table~\ref{tab:baselines}).
Noise injection is a baseline in a paper advancing a different elicitation method. The comparison table gives 0 to 3 percent of the hidden capability recovered by noise on each of eleven fine-tuned password locks, as single integers with no spread. Nowhere in the paper, appendix included, is the noise protocol described: where the noise was applied, over what range, with how many seeds, or whether the figure is a best or a mean. The denial is of the effect in fine-tuned password locks, not in prompted sandbagging.
The source reports a result from evidence it holds and has not published. The paper reports that noise recovered 0 to 3 percent of the locked capability on each of eleven password-locked models but never says how the noise was applied, over what range, with how many seeds, or by what statistic. The locks sit well below chance on a four-option test scored by forced choice, so a model scrambled by heavy noise would recover several percent to over twenty percent of the gap by answering at random. The reported figures are lower than that on ten of the eleven models, which indicates the baseline was not the original method's best score over a sweep running to collapse. The result shows that noise at the settings tried did nothing, not that a full sweep finds nothing. The authors say code and per-model outputs are released; no one else is known to have examined them. The quoted passage was not found in the stored copy of this source.
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